Marriage - Counter Sales Pitch

October 30th, 2007
Men & Women, Personal

As a not so young man of 30, the subject of marriage is often brought up. Sometimes this is not so subtle. Have you ever been in a situation where you meet someone for the first time, then as soon as they find out you’re single, they introduce you to their daughter nearly 30 minutes later ? Then start what can only be called a “sales pitch”. My daughter studied X at Y University, and works for Z………bla.bla.bla…. So have you thought of marriage ?

Shouldn’t fathers have more respect for their daughter than to try to marry her off to someone they just met. In a perfect world I can be blunt and say: “Save your breath, I’m not marrying your daughter, and if you knew me well enough, you wouldn’t suggest it. Now can we please discuss something else, oh and point that shotgun somewhere else !

So instead, I have to be nice and polite. What is the most basic decision making process ? Simply outlining Risk Vs. Gain and evaluating each risk based on how likely it is to occur, and how severe its impact will be. For Marriage, the items listed may be similar for all of us, but how they are analysed will be subjective.

Risk (R1-R13):

  1. Responsibility: Every decision you make must now take into account your spouse and children. No more bungee jumping !
  2. Financial Burden: Instead of supporting 1 person, now you must support 4+. The marriage ceremony, the honeymoon, housing, babysitter, maid, kids education, etc……
  3. Loss of Power: Power structure changes from a dictatorship to decision by committee.
  4. Loss of Privacy: Every minute and every action is now subject to review.
  5. The Nakad Gene: Also known as nagging wife syndrome !
  6. Kids: Those bundles of horror. From changing diapers, staying up late at night to listen to them cry, taking care of them when they are sick, helping with homework, answering their questions, providing guidance as they grow up, and the number one parental duty: Worrying.
  7. In-laws: oh joy, more people to visit on holidays. This is the 2nd family that will be forced upon you, the first being the one you were born into.
  8. Infidelity: So everything is peachy til one day you find some lipstick on your husband’s collar, or an expensive gift in your wife’s purse. What humiliation ?
  9. Divorce: Who gets the kids, the house, the car. Who picks up the pieces?
  10. Death: People get ill, and or die young all the time. Planes crash, cars explode, buildings collapse, ships sink etc…. What good is the perfect marriage, if your partner dies on you ? What sort of emotional wreck will you become ?
  11. Murder: When someone is murdered, their husband/wife are usually the first suspect. Why ? Well, if you put two people in the same house, with little possibility of escape. It can be like a time-bomb. Tick Tick Tick….
  12. No rewind: You could potentially lose a good chunk of your life on a failed marriage that can never be recovered. In our society a divorced, or widowed wife isn’t considered marrigable. This applies to a man too but to a lesser extent.
  13. Angry Husband: Enough said.


Gain (G1-G4):

  1. Sex: Why is this listed first ? Well, they don’t call it a basic instinct for nothing, and while men are much more vocal about it based on societal norms, It is just as basic a need for women. In a none-conservative society this gain wouldn’t really be restricted to marriage since extra-marital sex is not only common, but does not restrict you to a lifetime with one partner. As one offensive metaphor put it why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free ?
  2. Companionship: You will not be alone, you have someone to grow old with.
  3. Continuity-kids: We are all mortal, but while you may die at some point your dynasty will continue.
  4. Financial Assistance: Assuming both the husband and wife decide to work, and share the Financial Burden. Often when the family you marry into is more well-off, they will assist you either through career, connections, cash etc…
  5. *update* Love: Possible, but not a prerequisite, can sometimes come later, but can just as easily go!


It was notably easier for me to come up with risks than gains, but then again I am indefatigably pessimistic; and I have never been married. So did I miss anything ?


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chikapappi said,
Posted from Kuwait Using Internet Explorer Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows Windows XP  
10-30-2007 at 12:40:21

@@ !! :/ very very veeeeeeeery optimistic when it comes to marriage too! Ok, am not that young either & people keep trying to hook me up with strangers who also might have their take on the subject like you. It’s awkward & kinda embarrassing for both. I tend to avoid people who will ask me why am still single & that shit.

You can never stop bungee jumping if you have a cool wife & also, you might not get as much as you want :P “Rambo wife syndrome” :D

GOOD LUCK!

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KJ said,
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10-30-2007 at 13:55:41

I think numbers 1, 2 and 3 in the gains outweigh all your risks my friend. This is my personal opinion.

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Hani Obaid said,
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10-30-2007 at 14:12:21

Chikapappi, everyone’s favorite question (Emta rah nefrah feeki?) lol@ Rambo Wife Syndrome 8)

KJ, yeah the gains seem to be few, yet powerful.

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kinzi said,
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10-30-2007 at 14:23:50

Hani, a well-chosen wife has a unique ability to call out the very best in a man’s character, personality and talent.

She cheers him on in victory, points out his good qualities when he can’t see them, listens when he fails and helps him up back into the fight of the big bad world.

She’s holds him in the dark when he weeps over the death of his own mother.

She bears him children that are God’s word that his world impact wil carry on.

She lets him know, that even when he is 60 and paunchy, he is still her sexy 30 year old and has what it takes.

Very real dilemma, risk vs gain. I will pray for such a woman for you.

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Summer said,
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10-30-2007 at 15:53:26

very interesting read!
i think the pros outweigh the cons…i say go for it!
it is something that you have to do in life otherwise you will end up old, ugly, alone and lonely!

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asoom said,
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10-30-2007 at 16:51:40

Hani, your risk list is 3 times your gain list, so I would say that yes, you are missing something.

KJ, we’re going to have to talk about number 3……..

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Qwaider قويدر said,
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10-30-2007 at 18:18:04

I guess we’re a twin separated at birth or something!
What marriage is NOT
Truth about marriage
Why marriage is overrated
Marriage, personality tug of war

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hamede said,
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10-30-2007 at 19:32:21

Marriage is 2 way street.

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Deemco said,
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10-30-2007 at 23:37:37

I think kinzi has said it all. I second her
Does this mean you intend on staying single for the rest of your life?

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Hani Obaid said,
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10-31-2007 at 01:25:40

Kinzi, thank you, that was very touching and I think you speak from experience. It also seems to describe my parent’s relationship accurately. Unfortunately I don’t think they make women like that anymore.

Summer, ending up “old, ugly, alone and lonely” does indeed sound very scary. If it does turn out that way, I hope by that time I’m too scenile to notice.

7aki, Angry Husband confirms my worst fears about this subject.

Asoom, there’s a reason for that, I can more easily predict the risks because I dwell on them. In contrast, Kinzi enumerated the gains so eloquently because I think she is living them. Oh, remember to ask for foot mugshots before discussing G3 with any man :P

Hamede, brief and precise. The healthy marriages sure are. I saw your comment on one of Qwaider’s posts saying its still the same for you. I’m glad. My eyes always tear up when I see a couple married for 15+ years still being kind to each other.

Wasim, so why is it everytime I ask for your sister’s hand in marriage in front of the whole office you die of embarassment ? :P (Note: Wasim has no sisters !)

Deemco, I predict staying single; in fact I think if I were to meet the right person; it would be cruel to pursue it as she will deserve a better man than me.

Qwaider, I must have read your mind at some point. Incidentally I recommend a good movie about this topic (Much Ado about nothing, with Emma Thompson, and Kenneth Brannagh, its based on Shakespeare’s play).
Thanks for the links. I added my comments below each one.

What marriage is NOT:
- I love the mojitos commercial
- Mr. Disaster’s comment hits home, I want someone to hug me at night damn it
- but Arab lady’s despair is equally enlightening.

(Why marriage is overrated):
- I mentioned to a coworker I got a new treadmil, and put it in the bedroom, and oddly enough his response was “you’re not married are you”. I was puzzled, and said “No”. So he said “See if you were married, you wouldn’t be able to put the treadmill in the bedroom !”.
- lol at pink sheets, its not the pink that bothers me but the floral patterns, and the inordinate amount of decorative pillows.
- Harmful chemicals hah nothing smells worse than freshly sprayed hairspray !
- I prefer the toilet seat down. Last place I want to do target practice in.
- The shoes, the last unsolved mystery, I mean once they have one of each color, what do they need the other 90 for ?
- Heh, the only thing worse than soap operas is Oprah !
- Funny you mentioned the 10 minutes going out prepration time, that’s about the only thing my parents fight about.

(Marriage, personality tug of war):
- I like the carbon copy paragraph. I actually hear women talk about how a newly wed wife “trained” her husband as if they are talking about training a dog.

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Noura said,
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11-1-2007 at 06:38:13

No matter how many gains and risks,negative and positive lists you make, you will not really know what you gained or lost until you are married and living with your other half under one roof..Everything before that is all theory..All the rules change once you are in..
The risk points are all valid..
The gain ones can all change in a blink of an eye..If one of the two discover that he wasn’t meant to be caged(#2) then goodbye to #1 which lead to hating #3 and not caring for #4 even if they afford to take you to the moon..
If you want to marry enter it in good faith and wish for the best..What Kinzi said is beautiful but it’s like a fairy tale and those times are gone..
I hope am mistaken and good luck :)

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Hani Obaid said,
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11-1-2007 at 07:03:23

What Kinzi said is beautiful but it’s like a fairy tale and those times are gone..

My thoughts exactly, now if I could go back to the 70s, find a wife, and bring her back here, things would be different. I recommend (Somewhere In Time). One of my favorite movies.

Short of time travel, A woman who was in her 20s in the 70s will now be late 50s/early 60s. So its not gonna work.

I submit a man should always marry a woman 5-7 years older to balance out life expectancy and ensure they die around the same time. I don’t understand those men marrying someone 10 years younger when she can run circles around him.

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Verbal Alchemy said,
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11-1-2007 at 11:51:00

looool bas u have to be fair, since u listed murder in number 11 bil cons, u shud have included life insurance as a pro! :D

w number 13 looooooool la ba3d bukra!!!

ok on a serious note, i think marriage is a bliss! i used to hate children, always worried bout the prospect of only being with one person for the rest of my days, what if i get bored of my skull with him! what if he changes? what if i just cant stand him anymore one day! i used to also hate the idea of losing my independance.. UNTIL i fell in (true) love.. and i hope cupid shoots his silly arrow at u soon, u will c ur kids in her eyes, privacy wud mean nothing coz u wanna share everything and every moment with ur better half, and lifetime will seem too short to wanna spend with that person.. u will wish to tenjem3o bil a5reh as well.

u cant force it, and u cant push it away. fate will find u and when it does, u’ll be glad it did :)

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Hani Obaid said,
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11-1-2007 at 12:02:48

i think marriage is a bliss

Ok, but I expect an update on this from you and Deemco 5 years from now !!!

w number 13 looooooool la ba3d bukra!!!

You and 7aki liked 13, great minds think alike :)

and i hope cupid shoots his silly arrow at u soon

Cupid did his best, but he’s chubby, short, barefoot, and has to carry a bow half his size after all. We need to put the poor thing on a diet, get him an image consultant, and some form of transportation :D

Cupid

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hamza said,
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11-1-2007 at 15:25:26

the perfect post. You said it all. If you and qwaider ever decide to open a club or organisation, then put me in. :)

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Dana said,
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11-1-2007 at 19:49:43

Hani I think you’ve got some valid points there, and I tend to feel the same way. However, I’m more of an optimist and prefer to think that things will turn out for the best because there’s a lot of bad out there and if we start focusing on that too much it won’t lead us anywhere good. I say go with the flow, if the right woman comes along then she’d probably feel the same way as you and you wouldn’t have so many risks to worry about cause she would “understand you” and all that.

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Hani Obaid said,
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11-2-2007 at 00:00:36

Hamza, you were in that club the moment you were born. The question is if you ever wanna leave !

Dana, I’m a pessimist, but not a gloomy one. I always hope for the best, but expect the worst to avoid being disappointed.

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The Observer said,
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11-4-2007 at 08:35:56

What about adding love to the gain points?

Haya wouldn’t like your list of what a man loses when married, but I myself agree with you. It is a big responsibility that a person should make sure that he is ready to take.

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Hani Obaid said,
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11-4-2007 at 11:29:30

Observer, added it.

Although that’s not usually present before the marriage for Jordanian marriages, it can come later, however it can just as easily go !

Thank you for suggesting it.

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